I was wondering what you could tell me about this coin. Im amazed at the detail and the lettering, considering the age. Is it valuable?

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  • Hi Ashley ---

    Your coin appears to be one of the well-known replicas of New England colonial coinage. It is a "pine tree shilling," because, under the old British monetary system, there were 12 pence in one shilling, hence the XII annotation under the 1652 date.

    As a replica, your piece carries low value, maybe a few US dollars.

    To see pictures of genuine coins, go to this web page:


    At the bottom of this page you can see a side-by-side comparison of real and fake versions of this coin. Yours looks like the fake. Sorry.

    I've also posted here another picture of a genuine coin. One obvious difference between real and fake coins is the circle around the pine tree. Genuine coins usually have elongated "teeth" in the circle. Fakes have tiny "dots."

    To double check the real/fake status of your coin, ask a jeweler for a precise weight (to the nearest 0.1 gram). Genuine shillings weigh between 4.1 and 4.7 grams.

    • Paul Richards it weighed 4.1 on the digital scale I used, just to be sure i calibrated the scale and got a weight of 4.3. 

  • 4.3 is good.


    There is a sure-fire way to guarantee a correct assessment of real/fake authenticity, but it costs money. Look up the following services on the Internet, choose one, and send your coin for authentication by the professionals.

    Indeed, at 4.3 grams, your coin could be genuine.

    Look up: PCGS, NGC, ICG

    NGC has an additional service which will professionally clean your coin to make it look better.

  • Also the coin on the left here appears to look more like the one i have in regards to color, the fake one on the right side appears more silver than gold or brass-like. In your response earlier you showed a coin that was silver in color, that is a “fake” correct? However mine doesn’t look like that at all. It appears to be more similar to the pic of the real coin on the left.  Is there some other detail that makes you believe it not to be genuine, Im just curious. 

  • Hi again, Ashley --

    I like your persistence! I hope your coin is genuine. My picture is of a genuine coin.

    These guys are especially difficult to evaluate. First, there are ***tons*** of fakes. Second, the genuine coins vary widely. If you really want to know for sure, paying a pro authenticator is the only viable option (i.e., PCGS, NGC, etc.)

    I have attached here a screen snap from my auction database. These are all genuine, and you can see the wide variation in pattern and looks. The fact that your coin is proper weight is a good sign, but I wouldn't hold my breath for a positive outcome. If you can, seek out knowledgeable collectors and professional coin dealers for more opinions. In-person inspection is much better than Internet photos.

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